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I'll say. Right there between the kissin' cousins and the grade school cocaine dealers (okay, I'll admit that there aren't too many of those, but they DO exist). Not that I'd rather be stuck in downtown Detroit or any other hardhitting urban central, but this is definately NOT one of the best places to live.

As for the "dominant attitiude", well, who can really say what the dominate attitude is? I'm sure where you live, most people would never think of blaming the majority based on the actions of a minority, but in other parts of the country, well, let's just say they "don't want no stinkin' towel-heads stinking up their turf" (almost exact quote from neighbor). And I don't think that most of the people who act in such an irrational manner feel so inclined in the first place. It's what I call the "Dominomic Sheep Effect". Basically, a small number of extreme thinkers blare their opinions to the world, and in so doing make people think, "Hey, these guys are really on to something here!" So those people join up and start blaring, and others jump on the bandwagon, and all of these people start preaching to their families, friends, and neighbors about how bad this thing is, and how right they are, and pretty soon half the community has been recruited. Other people see what's gonig on, they don't want to be left out, and they get pushed down with all the other dominoes in their turn. Think of it as peer pressure; they want to be included, they want to look good, and others will follow.

That's probably what happened to most of the soldiers involved with the beatings. Maybe a select few with sadistic tendancies started up the bandwagon, and the others just hopped on so they wouldn't lose face.

Doesn't sound like human behavior, you say? Ask a bunch of smokers what made them start. You'll be shocked.

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You're quite bitter for one so young. Personally, I blame the Bush administration for that. emoticon

Actually, there are whole agencies dedicated to figuring out precisely what the dominant attitude is. If I weren't so lazy, I'd go find them. Offhand, I 'll say that, to me, state and local laws are probably the best gauge of popular sentiment, as those are the laws that the populace is most easily able to effect. Based on the state laws that are being proposed and passed nationwide, I'd say homosexuals have more to worry about that Muslims as a whole in terms of the dominant attitude toward them.

I'm not quite sure how the smoking comment relates. There's a lot of reasons why people start smoking. Peer pressure/desire to fit in is only one. Often, it's a self-destructive tendency bordering on depression that leads to smoking, in my opinion.

Btw, the South is not exactly known for it's lack of bigotry. However, there are a lot of redneck-types who take anything the Bush administration says as gospel. The one truly good thing Bush did after 9-11 (in my opinion) was stand up and say that this was a few freaks, not the entire Muslim faith (I may be paraphrasing with the freaks part emoticon) - a message he repeated several times over, including in the State of Union address. That eliminated a lot of the bigotry that could have come from the "follow me" crowd.

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I'll never cease in illustrating my utmost disdain towards this country's global bully policy...

Even if this is all I can do, then this is what I will keep doing until this !@#$ occupation is over...

I deliberately do not mention hypocrisy, for I believe hypocrisy will NEVER be over...

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Pretty effective job you are doing, there, too AC!

Although I think there are exceptions of good and bad in all the armies (there have been enough good German soldiers to account for that statement)...although American's don't have the monopoly in cruelty, some how it is hard to accept it from them, specifically! One would expect better!... Then, again, that's only my opinion. emoticon

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C Berenice wrote:
...although American's don't have the monopoly in cruelty...

Agreed. Still the Americans do have the monopoly in playing the global "protectors" role (or should I say global pimps?) And THAT makes a LOT of difference!!!...

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Yep to the self-proclaimed "protector's" role.

As far as the global pimp - that, I'll disagree with. May want to look a little more deeply into the situation to find the country that fits that bill. emoticon

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addi30 wrote:
Yep to the self-proclaimed "protector's" role.

I much appreciate your using the word "protector" in quotes, same like I did... emoticon

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As far as the global pimp - that, I'll disagree with. May want to look a little more deeply into the situation to find the country that fits that bill.

Ok... You now have got my full attention... emoticon

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There's one country that profits far more than the US when it comes to oil. There's one country (and only one) whose US embassy in Washington gets protected by the secret service. There's one country whose royal families encompass both terrorist leaders and high level business associates of American presidents. emoticon There's one country that, I feel, goes the "Walk softly and carry a big stick" route - with the US being their "big stick."

That does NOT lessen the role or responsibility of the US, nor is it a clear cut "here's the boss" situation. It's certainly a two-way street. But I feel Saudi Arabia has far more influence on our government and our economy than they should, and I feel a lot of America's foreign policy is highly influenced by Saudi Arabia as well.

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Makes sense... Will look more carefully into it then I'll get back to you (eventually)... emoticon

Additional edit: Although I always thought that is was Israel the one that fits the above characteristics as far as using the US as their "big stick" is concerned...


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As someone with cause to be extremely familiar with the Israeli/US relationship, I can assure you that is not the case (Sharon is scum, however). Prior to Sharon in particular, that's not the case. And the US has always been far less supportive of Israel than one would think from the news reports presented by the European press. The European Union has it's own economic reasons for it's actions and attitudes toward Palistinians, and the American Press isn't the only media outlet that an spin. But that's a whole different discussion.

In any case, who profits most from America's actions? Who profits most by controlling oil in Iraq? America and Saugi Arabia.

I suspect you'll fnd a serious look into the ties between the current administration and the Saudi Arabian government will be a bit alarming on some level. If you really want to get pissed, start researching all the ties between the Bush family and the Bin Laden family. Go back starting with Prescott Bush for that one.



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addi30 wrote:
But that's a whole different discussion.

Good! Let's do it then... I'd be most interested in having a chance to look at US/Israeli affairs from an aspect other than my own...

Prescott Bush, uh? Why does it sound familiar? Will have a deeper look into it...



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Has all the main disucssions and debates here moved on from "Nazis" business or not?
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Probably emoticon

And who is Prescott Bush? And why is that name ringing bells in my mind? It sounds like a Christmas special in here emoticon

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I think I'm remembering the name right. I'm bad with names. emoticon Bush Sr.'s grandfather.

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Ah, so he's Dubya's Great Grandpappy.

What is this connection you speak of, pray?

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Prescott Bush worked for a company with Nazi connections, if I remeber rightly.

Actually though, he was a better man than the current President Bush.


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Crap, I just lost the whole long thing I'd typed because my stupid computer froze. Grrrrr.

I could be remembering wrong, but I was fairly certain that prescott had bin laden ties as well, and that the ongoing family connection was part of the reason Bush Jr. was able to get finicial support from the Bin Laden family when he went into buiness. I know the current Pres. has very questionable ties through Arbusto (Bush's first oil company) and through the eldest Bin Laden brother, who profided some of the initial funding (and was later killed in a one-man plane crash in....guess where.....Texas).

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Prescott Bush worked for a company with Nazi connections, if I remeber rightly.

I think that was the case, if memory serves... But will look further into it...

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Prescott Bush

There is a link about the guy if anyone wants to read.
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His company definitely had Nazi connections. But I thought it had Saudi connections as well?

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From the link which Muse provided (thanx Muse):

BUSH, Prescott Sheldon, (1895 - 1972)

I'll be damned! The guy was born and died in the same respective years like my grandfather!...

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....il jus put this in:
on another forum ive been threatend by someone claiming to be a nazi. im not realy that scared, since i dont think there was any realality in what he was saying, but it dont help ya sleap at night, ya dig?

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They claimed to be a Nazi? That's just . . . sad. emoticon I have little patience for those who instill fear with an advocation of hate and violence. They are such fools. Trust me, I live down the road from one. There is nothing below the idle threats.

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Generalley Cool wrote:...on another forum ive been threatend by someone claiming to be a nazi. im not realy that scared, since i dont think there was any realality in what he was saying, but it dont help ya sleap at night, ya dig?

In what way did he threaten you GCool? Care to tell? I am curious.
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well, full story is he is nobody on the forum liked him much, he had realy wierd ideas and said realy anti-everything stuff, mainly women and children bashing. heres one post of his;


Okay, I have a bone to pick with the United States of America's Law protecting women from rape!!, what the hell do you mean i cant rape whoever the hell i please!, It's my right as a man to rape any damn no good woman i see fit to rape, Women deserved to be raped every so often, it keeps them in line and they know their role, IN THE KITCHEN, and on the BED, with THEIR LEGS SPREAD, and in the DELIVERY ROOM!!, if you think otherwise, then you're either a coward, a queer, or a WOMAN!, also, I'm going to petition this law, and try to have it changed... If you're a woman you deserve no better than to be raped by any man that see's fit to rape your ignorant ass.



so anyway, one post 'Concentration Camps A go-go!' reeeeeaaaaaly pissed me off, so i did a minor hack into his runboard profile to get his MSN address (as you know it dosnt work jus clickin on the button) i didnt add him, but i put in a post 'if you have any complaints (which you probably do) email him here: (and his address)'
he got angry and posted a threatening reply to a JOKE! err, the post has been deleted but il scan through my chat logs on MSN to see if it was saved when i talked to the board manager.


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OK found it, it said this:



Oh, I'm scared, please dont take my msn address noooo, pfffffffft you ****ing homo, you think you're cool huh.. let me tell you something, i know how to get information on people, an i can definately pay you a visit sometime buddy boy, i don't like threats and you certainly like acting tough online, well lets see if you're so tough, !@#$ lover.





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GC, when did you last check your inbox?

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i hardly check it, lol, i use MSN more

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What's he gonna do, bash at the moniter with a hole-punch? As long as you don't have your full name and home address (which you shouldn't anyway) posted anywhere in full public view, there's nothing he can do except send you lots of "male enhancement" SPAM.

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Well...I don't know about this guy being a neo-Nazi or whatever the hell, else, he thinks he is... but I do know that he, certainly, sounds like a pervert. I wish that there was a way to forbid people like that access to any board altogether. I can't imagine how many people who, unlike GCool, might have taken him seriously- he has scared. I don't know if am over-reacting to this but bullies, really, tick me off in the worst possible way! emoticon

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