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addi30 wrote:
Anna, the more literal translation of that commandment is "thou shalt not murder" - or so I've heard. Killing for a "purpose" is, in fact, also commanded within the bible, over and over, in a retaliatory manner. Or just because you don't like someone's activities. "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live" - remember? Shall we therefore institute the death penalty for witches?



Actually, that passage is an adulteration of the original Latin. In the previous text, it was read "Suffer not a poisoner to live." Later on, one the men translating the Bible decided that "poisoners" and "witches" were the same thing, and therefore tried to make it plainer to others. The point here is that the laws sometimes do not fit what is just or ethical to the rest of the world; they fit only the morals of the lawmakers themselves. The death penalty may be a hypocrital insult to human life in the eyes of many people, but to the leaders of the state and the country, it is perfectly moral. In conclusion, whether it's wrong or just is a matter of opinion. Whether it is in use or outlawed is a matter of power.

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Actually, whether it's a witch or a poisoner is not really related to the point I was hoping to make with the example - which was that the guideline directly contradicts a commandment translated as "Thou shalt not kill."

However, the ten commandments were not originally written in Latin, nor was the phrase about the witch/poisoner/whatever. The word currently interpreted as "witch" was a translation of the original Hebrew word "m'khashephah," which has nothing to do with poison specifically, but instead referred to those who did harm through what, at that time, was interpreted as magic, or such is my limited understanding.


That said, I think your final point is quite apt; things will be as those in power decide they shall be. However, one hopes that in a democracy, we regular citizen types get to have at least a little influence...

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addi30 wrote: However, one hopes that in a democracy, we regular citizen types get to have at least a little influence...


I agree here. And I think we have exibited that influence if you concider that in many countries (and in some of the US States - if I am not mistaken) the death penalty has been voted out of the constitution or local law, by the people.
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I believe no one has the right to take someone's life, even the court. Life is sacred. I do, however, believe they should have harsher punishments for molesters and rapists or those who have violated someone even if they took their life as well : castration.
Or let thier fathers have a weapon and lock them together in a cell... whatever happens happens.
I used to be for the death penalty for the sheer sake of how much it costs to keep the dirty scoundrel alive in prison. I realized that if I was to believe that abortion is murder (which I ardently do) then my conviction for sacred life would be hypocritical. So I'm against it.
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